Draft Patrick Colbeck for #Michigan #LtGov nominee (Yes, it is the Convention that does that, not the Gov nominee)

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Remember Folks, it is the CONVENTION DELEGATES that have the authority/Power to nominate and Elect the LtGov Candidate. Delegates usually just rubber-stamp the "preference" of the Gubernatorial Candidate, but do NOT have to.

If you'll recall, or if you do not know look up, the efforts to unseat RINO Rick's LG Calley (to balance the ticket with a REAL CONSERVATIVE) with Wes Nakagiri just a few short years ago (Google: Nakagiri LG challenge). That is how the LG is supposed to be determined, by the Convention Delegates nominating and Voting!

We can and must insist the Patrick Colbeck be the LG nominee (so we have at least one real/proven Conservative on the ticket, one that has a real/actual Conservative Voting Record and didn't have to hide from their Voting Record like Calley and Schuette have to).

Feel free, like me, to use the logo below, or make your own TShirts (or Polos), at CafePress (you may have to include some text on the shirt to avoid it from claiming you are attempting to subvert copyrights), to wear to the Convention!!

Pat is still a PARTY Politician and knows Schuette wouldn't nominate him so will play the PARTY UNITY line. DRAFT PATRICK COLBECK!

(otherwise someone needs to nominate Wes Nakagiri again, to make a/the point. and then also don't be surprised if the Establishment also then tries to nominate Jim Hines for LG to split Votes from Pat and Establishment then gets their pick.)

Governorship was not in the Cards (THIS TIME) for Pat, but perhaps the actual CALLING was/is for LG this time around and Governor in 2022 or 2026!!  If Schuette "team" (establishment) wants UNITY, then give us a FAIR SHAKE and Vote on LG at Convention. If we lose that Vote fair-and-square, then they can/will have their UNITY! Deny such, may beget same such denial.

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[NOTE/UPDATE: elevated from the Comments:

more from FB... Response to my advocacy....

Like I said elsewhere, there are about a MILLION different threads on this topic... Pat is still a loyal PARTY Politician!!! He will NOT openly advocate for LG even if interested, he will toe the PARTY UNITY LINE! It is up to us to demonstrate we want/need him to be the LG. He clearly was not CALLED for Gov this time but maybe it was/is all about LG to set him up for 2022 or 2026!!!!! He, IMNSHO, again while he won't Publicly advocate for it or say so, would SERVE if we his very loyal supporters advocate for him... Just as I began advocating for Pat for higher office (Dec 2016) long before he announced via my Page: http://facebook.com/DraftPatrickColbeck (you can scroll back to the beginning of the/that Page and see all that)]

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Comment by Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) on August 8, 2018 at 10:43pm

Rules were indeed changed, cuz the Establishment doesn't like Delegates having the Power they were given, so they stripped it from them... See Rule 22 (now, updated/amended): https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/migop/pages/1860/attachments/... What this means is that it is all the more important that we continue to be LOUD with our "firm recommendation" that Schuette pick Pat!

Comment by Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) on August 8, 2018 at 9:58pm

I joined the #GOP in 1979, as a Reagan Conservative, cuz I believe in the things our Party Platform claims we stand for, not to ever be a Tax/Spend, Liberal, Socialsit, Democrat-lite, RINO/CINO, that the majority in our Party actually represent! :) #IWillNeverSellOutStopAskingMeTo

Comment by Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) on August 8, 2018 at 9:50pm

Bob Cushman Last time I saw the rules, precinct delegates decided LG, AG and SOS.

Tim Reno Convention Delegates.

Trisha Fessler State convention delegates

Ken Crider New rules. Someone please find them and post them

Joseph M. Lenard hey Bob Cushman, Tim Reno, Trisha Fessler, Ken Crider.... I do not doubt the Establishment hacks will have wanted to change the LG Rules following our Wes Nakagiri challenge, but until such time as someone can and does cite the Rule change number and shows us in B&W the new Rule, I will continue to operate under the assumption of the RULES AS I KNOW THEM!! And a basic open nominations and simple majority votes by Delegates!!!

Comment by Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) on August 8, 2018 at 8:09pm

I will immediately back off if (former Chief Justice) Robert Young Jr (who should have been our #USSenate nominee) is announced as Bill's choice.... Bob helps us with Wayne County - as previously discussed in: Key to Winning State-wide Races in Michigan - http://rattlewithus.ning.com/forum/topics/key-to-winning-state-wide...

Comment by Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) on August 8, 2018 at 7:19pm

still more discussion from FB...

Marcy Desmond Jankovich I really hate this we need a woman thing. Identity politics is a DEMOCRAT thing. Let's find the best person for the job.

Kenneth Lloyd Understood.

Joseph M. Lenard Marcy Desmond Jankovich / Kenneth Lloyd
I understand your frustration and feelings, however, I cannot and will not change my normal position just cuz it is inconvenient to have it come up again now that I am advocating for PAT over someone like Candice Miller who I said as far back as 2010 should have run for Gov or at least been our LG Candidate back then...

Further, let me share my usual on the #IdentityPolitics topic....

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You may dislike #IdentityPolitics, but sometimes an Enemy dictates the Battlefield that you must Fight on. Failure to Fight any particular Battle, means Surrender (automatic LOSS).

Sometimes you can pick the time and location of a Battle taking it to the Enemy, other times you must Defend (more-so, Fight back) upon the Battlefield the Enemy dictates.

Lincoln did not get to just say - you know, I'd rather not bother to confront Confederate Troops amassed at Gettysburg (let's ignore the situation and pretend it isn't happening). To do so would have then allowed them to March on next to anywhere they damn well pleased. Unless you are completely outnumbered and have no real way to Fight back, you must engage!

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.m.lenard/posts/10156155136364279

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BUT TIMES/THINGS CHANGE!!! Pat is the right choice this time around. Candice is probably far too distant a memory for most to matter other than her Gender this go 'round?!?!?

I remain true to my positions and #Principles, each and every situation requires separate and careful consideration of ALL EXTENUATING (sp?) circumstances!!! What was important in 2010 can and is different than 2018... And, mark my words, EL SAYED will be Whitmers running-mate... Pat was the only one willing to NOT COWER IN THE CORNER and take him on... He will take on Whitmer and Abdul while Bill plays PC games (which will cause his defeat)...

Comment by Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) on August 8, 2018 at 7:07pm

I am tired of Conservatives w/o any backbone knuckling under (selling out) w/o any fight, every election cycle, with absolutely ZERO IN RETURN (again, EVERY DAMN ELECTION CYCLE)... #NOMORE... I DEMAND RESPECT for the Delegates and Floor nominations for the LG and a VOTE. Lose fair and square, ok, you get party unity, don't and don't expect the usual DICTATORIAL DEMANDS FOR CONFORMITY (rather than earned unity) to fly this time around!!!!

Comment by Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) on August 8, 2018 at 6:29pm

more from FB... Response to my advocacy....

Like I said elsewhere, there are about a MILLION different threads on this topic... Pat is still a loyal PARTY Politician!!! He will NOT openly advocate for LG even if interested, he will toe the PARTY UNITY LINE! It is up to us to demonstrate we want/need him to be the LG. He clearly was not CALLED for Gov this time but maybe it was/is all about LG to set him up for 2022 or 2026!!!!! He, IMNSHO, again while he won't Publicly advocate for it or say so, would SERVE if we his very loyal supporters advocate for him... Just as I began advocating for Pat for higher office (Dec 2016) long before he announced via my Page: http://facebook.com/DraftPatrickColbeck (you can scroll back to the beginning of the/that Page and see all that)

Comment by Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) on August 8, 2018 at 6:03pm

some additional FB discussion on this topic...

Kerry Todd Joe, He did a valent job, BUT a poor showing in 3rd place. Trust me, I voted for him. The job should go to Brian Calley.

Joseph M. Lenard LOL... Calley as LG again?!?! Not a chance! At least someone like Candice (though way past her time, she should have run for Governor herself in 2010) would make some sense.

Kerry Todd His NRA rating is the same as Colbeck. The GOP was way under the Dem votes for governor. Do you want a rock solid win or hand it to the Dems. Unless Calley backs out and puts his support behind Colbeck.. The numbers tell the story

Kerry Todd 140,289 more votes on the D side that the GOP side. That is a serious issue.

Jeff Sakwa It will be a female

Kerry Todd ?? Not sure where from....

Joseph M. Lenard re: enthusiasm gap.... indeed a "serious issue," especially when we have the usual 8 year flip-flop D then R then D then R cycle. Coinciding with R in WH and all that usually spells for MidTerms and with Trump only having carried the State by 10k Votes. That, with the added complication of the #USSenate cycle in the same year!!!

I "understand" where you are coming from and can see you "clearly" are "thinking" about it... I just will never agree (with Calley anyway). I was at Convention trying to over-throw him last time!!!

They want UNITY then it's time to reach out and EARN UNITY rather than the usual DICTATORIAL DEMANDS OF CONFORMITY!

Take Care and GOD BLESS!!!

Comment by Phil Solarz on August 8, 2018 at 4:57pm

We tried this when Snyder was elected. We offered up another LT Gov, but "the party" fought us all the way. We had people places motions on the floor for a vote and "the party" kept giving us one excuse after another, even stating that they didn't have enough ballots. I am no longer a delegate but I would wouldn't hesitate a second to vote for Patrick. I am writing this so will know what to expect if you can drum up enough support among the elected delegates.

Comment by Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) on August 8, 2018 at 2:58pm

For those who don't know or haven't figured it out yet from my post, here is a FB response regarding this topic...

David Chandler wrote: "The delegates choose the LtGov. Art V ss 21 "The Lt Gov, SoS, and AG shall be nominated by Party Convention in a manner prescribed by Law." Now, unless the Law changes this by giving the Gov Candidate the power to choose the LTGov, we, as delegates have a lot to say about who the Lt Gov shall be. All we need is a Majority."

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